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Michelle Lobdell's avatar

It is not "antisemitic" to credibly criticize anything related to Judaism. That label should apply only to attacking Jewish people simply because they are Jewish. Every other religion is open to scholarly debate - except Jusaism. The is a knee jerk reaction to sensible discussion and crticism of current Jewish beliefs and practices as juxtaposed to the Bible and the teachings of Jesus Christ. By the standards of those yelling, "antisemite!!", Jesus Himself, a Jew, was the greatest antisemite in history. The people labeling CR this are un- serious and unworthy of their position.

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Lee's avatar

islam doesn’t really seem like its open to debate. you say something they don’t like and they cut your head off, that kind of behavior tends to discourage debate.

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Fr. Richard L. Jones's avatar

So far, everything I've heard or read from Calvin Robinson is spot on! The fact that he has moved around to different provinces or ecclesiastical homes is simply because he has been invited to make his home in these provinces under false representation by those who lead them, and who hoped to pin their future on someone as renoun as Calvin. Yes, Calvin is well known, but I have not seen him ever exalt himself, but rather have witnessed him act with admirable humility. Those in the Church who want to tie him to the whipping post through misrepresentation and outright lies, will answer to God someday and be chastised for their misguided and poorly formed intentions.

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Tim Howard's avatar

Celebrity is addictive. Human beings are weak and egocentric. Robinson's failure to develop a mature sense of self-awareness has done for him. This is very sad.

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Wozza's avatar

His statements on the Talmud are accurate. It is NOT a divinely inspired document. Judaism would concede its Rabbinically authored. Just because he is critical of something that is antithetical to the Gospel, does not make him an antisemite. I think his failure was he ingratiated himself too strongly with the Trump train.

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Wozza's avatar

But yes Rome thinks it still without error

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Wozza's avatar

No. That’s what the reformation was about.

Protestants assert 5 core aspects of:

1. Sola scriptura: “Scripture alone”

2. Sola fide: “faith alone”

3. Sola gratia: “grace alone”

4. Solo Christo: “Christ alone”

5. Soli Deo gloria: “to the glory of God alone”

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Jim Wetzel's avatar

I know little of Calvin Robinson. But having been rejected by the Anglicans seems like a pretty good recommendation.

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Syre Byrd's avatar

One feels this man could do well to now at this point either: be a priest only with no media outlets whatsoever in any form. Just serve.

Or to stop this priestly thing and become the pundit lock, stock and barrel.

I don’t care either way, personally. It just seems obvious.

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Nani Lani's avatar

CRa promotion of antisemitism is heartbreaking and confusing. Genesis 12,:3.

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Catholic Deacon's avatar

He is not a Roman Catholic priest.

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Patrick Abbott's avatar

It's a sad tale that reflects much of humanity's fallen nature.

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Tim Howard's avatar

It certainly reflects Calvin Robinson's.

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Scott Campbell's avatar

I saw Calvin at ARC. He sat near me during one of the mornings. He looked very grumpy, unlike the very cheerful clergy in attendance from every other possible denomination. It seems to me that he is just angst-ridden, henerally, as a person. He exuded an almost adolescent tension around him. I felt like he was on the warpath that day, and quite unapproachable.

'Judeo-Christian values' was the most commonly used term at ARC, but 'Christian' was used on its own. This seemed largely be a term used out of a gesture of politeness and fraternity with the many Talmudic Jews in attendance at ARC. However, it was an overwhelmingly Christian and Jewish attended event.

Judeo-Christian is right. Jesus Christ is the Jewish messiah. Saviour only makes sense in the Jewish, old testament context. Christianity is the pre-eminant form of second temple Judaism. It is a Jewish religion, in that sense. The Talmud was written in response to, and as a rejection of Christianity, 500-600 years AD. Around the same time as the Koran and Islam were developing.

Christ was a Judean. There are separate rules for Jews (Judeans), and Gentiles (All other nations) retained in the Bible.

It strikes me as a huge irony - and a very real problem - that the non-biblical, 20th century/1930s Nazi, Darwinist and eugenict idea to make Judaism or Islam a 'race', has been internalised in the West. The idea that one can be both a Jew and an atheist, for example, is a nonsense. And yet many secular 'Jews' in the USA do subscribe to the DNA thesis of Judaism these days.

It strikes me that one of the main teachings of Christ is against such tribalism. The Bible is obviously a call to universalise Judaism for the Gentiles. That's the point, right?

The denial of the Genesis story of creation, that all people come from a single source, was a fundamental problem created by the enlightenment. ARC did place far too much emphasis on saving the enlightenment project, in my opinion. And yes, ironically, 'Calvinism' anf Lutheranism drove a lot of that philosophy in Germany. Look up Martin Luther's antisemitism, and who funded him.

Materialist thinking is the problem here.

The idea that group identity or sin are contagious or materially infectious is a problem.

I think Calvin Robinson, like many other people spending too much time online, may be trying to do a good thing, but can't do it at the right level, because of our cultural assumptions, materialist paradigm, and cultural/personal insecurities.

'Nation' is a way of being in the Bible. Not a contract with your government, or a genetic classification. Race, as we understand it today, is not a biblical concept.

Ecumenism is insulting to all faiths, but what Calvin Robinson seems to be failing to realise is that there is a better way to say things.

Too many people make hay online by playing the persecuted victim, after going out of their way to be provocative and become victimised. Is that good pastoral care? Is he doing his day job before he acts out online? His old boss doesn't seem to think so.

It doesn't feel like he's doing this out of a place of love or outreach. It feels like self-serving click bait fodder. I think that's what the problem is.

Whatever is missing in his life, I hope he finds it. He's clearly on a journey and thinking out loud as he goes. And I'm sure he's a big enough boy to handle the criticism.

https://open.substack.com/pub/scottcampbell/p/arc-etc?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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Christ John Otto's avatar

Wow, what a hit piece.

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Bryan Horton's avatar

But are the details true?

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Christ John Otto's avatar

No, the bishop never contacted the priest in question, he found out about the accusations on social media. The bishop never replied to any attempts to contact him, and the priest lost his job, home, and US visa.

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Christ John Otto's avatar

All based on left wing media rumors.

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Mel Bel's avatar

ooph! Fundraising for a $350k house? That's not a good look.

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Jack's avatar

Do you have any idea what a house costs in current year?

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Dan's avatar

His statements are accurate. There is no such thing is as Judeo-Christianity, or Judeo-Christian values which is an insult to Christians and a concept invented by Jews.

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Amateur Meditations's avatar

Makes sense the Anglican Church would fire him for this, given the history of Protestantism at large in England. And the plain fact of who financed William of Orange in deposing the Catholic Monarch and establishing the Bank of England, shortly after Cromwell readmitted them into the country…

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Jack's avatar

"Antisemitic" in the current year simply means "anything the Jews do not like." Did you label Robinson "anti-islamic" for his strident criticisms of Islam? Or do you just stupidly follow the 11th commandment "thou shalt never criticize Judaism"?

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Eddie Edwards's avatar

That is a lie. No minister of the Gospel is an antisemite.

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